On Wednesday September 27, 2017 the House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations held a hearing on wildfire policy. Geos Institute’s President and Chief Scientist Dr. Dominick DellaSala testified. You can read his full testimony here, read his Questions for the Record statement, watch a video of the hearing, and read coverage by E&E Daily below.
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Dominick’s testimony begins at approximately 31:00
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Marc Heller, E&E News reporter
Published: Thursday, September 28, 2017
Senate Environment and Public Works Chairman John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) led one of two hearings yesterday on wildfires. Environment and Public Works Committee
Senate Environment and Public Works Chairman John Barrasso said yesterday he’ll try to push changes in forest management policy through the panel by year’s end, in response to another record-setting year for wildfires.
After a hearing on three bills aimed at speeding forest-thinning projects, the Wyoming Republican said he’ll make the issue a priority, riding alongside — or in — legislation to provide a long-term funding solution for wildfires.
“We want to get this done this year,” Barrasso told reporters. “I think it’s an opportunity we haven’t had in the past, and a lot of it has to do with some of the emergency relief that people around the country need, and that certainly applies to the Pacific Northwest and the Rocky Mountain West.”
Barrasso said he’s working with several Western senators, including Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), on a measure that could end the Forest Service’s need to transfer money from non-fire accounts to pay for blazes.
How far Congress may go in lowering regulatory hurdles is the sticking point, lawmakers and lobbyists say. Most of the agreement among lawmakers, industry and conservation groups appears to focus on narrowly targeted forest thinning, federal collaboration with local officials and limitations on lawsuits against projects.
Legislation that goes further, by expanding how many acres can be exempted from more rigorous environmental review, continues to divide lawmakers and has raised objections from environmental groups.
The hearing did reveal some points of agreement that could shape any legislative package. “There’s a bipartisan path forward,” said Collin O’Mara, president and CEO of the National Wildlife Federation.
The group backs S. 1842, by Wyden and Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), to end fire borrowing, as well as S. 605, by Montana Sens. Steve Daines (R) and Jon Tester (D), to reduce litigation and provide more collaboration among federal, state and local authorities on forest projects.
The administration has said it may transfer as much as $600 million out of other accounts to pay for wildfire this year; Wyden and Crapo’s legislation would create emergency funding in future budgets so that fires are treated like hurricanes or other natural disasters. More than 8 million acres have burned nationwide this year, the Forest Service has said.
Daines and Tester’s legislation, called the “Litigation Relief for Forest Management Projects Act,” would reverse the 2015 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision that obligated the Forest Service to consult more with the Fish and Wildlife Service on endangered species potentially affected by projects. The Obama administration opposed the Cottonwood ruling, as does the Trump administration.
O’Mara said his organization also supports S. 1417, by Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), to allow more removal of invasive juniper and pinyon pine.
O’Mara called it a “good start” toward forest management challenges in those states. That bill is called the “Sage Grouse and Mule Deer Habitat Conservation and Restoration Act.” Those trees harm mule deer and sage grouse habitat and feed wildfires, Hatch told the committee.
By gearing discussion toward the approaches of Daines and Hatch, O’Mara said, lawmakers could reach a “massive, bipartisan” agreement on wildfire management.
Another bill the committee considered, by Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), goes “a little too far,” O’Mara said, by expanding from 3,000 acres to 10,000 acres the area eligible for categorical exclusions from reviews under the National Environmental Policy Act. That bill, S. 1731, is called the “Forest Management Improvement Act.”
Most Forest Service categorical exclusions fall well short of 3,000 acres, suggesting the agency isn’t using them to the extent the law already allows, said Delaware Sen. Tom Carper, the panel’s ranking Democrat.
To critics of categorical exclusions, their expansion would undermine environmental laws; O’Mara said the NWF prefers narrowly targeted measures, as in Hatch’s bill.
Advocates say the predominance of small categorical exclusions suggests they need to be used on a bigger scale to reduce wildfire risk and attack infestations for instance.
“It really doesn’t get the job done,” Barrasso told reporters.
In the House
While senators appear to closing the gap on wildfire policy, the House hasn’t shown as much progress. At a hearing on the same issue yesterday, Democrats and Republicans on the House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations came at the debate from opposite directions.
The panel’s ranking Democrat, Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin, said Republicans were ignoring climate change as the driving force behind increased catastrophic fires, despite eight hearings in two sessions of Congress.
“I think recycling is a good idea, but not like this,” McEachin said.
Republicans said more aggressive thinning of forests would make them healthier and less fire-prone. One member, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), called a witness who disagreed a “fake scientist.”
The witness, Dominick DellaSala, is director of the Geos Institute in Ashland, Ore., and received his doctorate in natural resources from the University of Michigan in 1986, as well as a master’s degree in ecology from Wayne State University in 1982, according to his résumé on the group’s website.
His writings on fire ecology have pitted him against timber interests and some of the common wisdom in forest management circles.
DellaSala told the subcommittee that his research suggests that while thinning makes sense in some locations, timber operations tend to increase the risk of severe wildfire.
Instead of increasing harvests, he said, policymakers should focus on protecting homes in the wildland-urban interface and using fire-resistant construction in those areas, while tackling climate change in the long run.
“We’ve got to learn to coexist with these fires,” DellaSala said.
The chairman of the subcommittee, Rep. Bruce Westerman (R-Ark.), a forester by training, has sponsored legislation to address fire borrowing and loosen environmental regulations around forest management. That bill is the “Resilient Federal Forests Act,” H.R. 2936.